Going to tell you a funny but quick story about my Little Mini Me! I love my son Jeffrey Jr so much and he makes me laugh so hard I almost want to pee myself.
I took him on our Father Son camp out Friday Night. We had such a great time. We had a bomb fire and cooked weenies over the flames and marshmallows too. My son came up to me and Bishop Porter as we were talking and had a few questions.
The first was "If its wrong to make babies with your siblings how come Heavenly father let Adam and Eve make babies and they were brothers and sisters?" So bishop almost choked on his food and Brother Terry stepped in. He said well Jeffrey if it was not for them we wouldn't be here. He then said he had another question. He said well how come there are no black people at the father son camp out or in our church.
Brother Terry responded that if he would take a look around he would see some. Brother Walton is black and brother Terry proceeded to tell the story about the Lamenites and Nephites. He talked to Jeffrey about how heavenly father distinguished the difference between the sinners and those who wanted to follow his plan of salvation.
This brings me up to today. Tracy received a call from Jeffrey Teacher. Jeffrey was in Study Hall and he was having a disagreement with a little black girl. She was talking about black people but doesn't remember what about. He told her that the reason black people were black is because his church believes they were "SINNERS". This stems from the conversation that the Bishopric had with Jr during the camp out. Jeffrey was doing nothing but explaining what the church believes.
Mr Friedman called Tracy wanting to know if he should be recommended to a counselor. Tracy was thinking about that and asked why and then he told her about this issue. I am so proud of Tracy for sticking up for Jeffrey. WAY TO GO TRACY!! She told his teacher that Jeffrey was not wrong because this is what we believe. She informed him that we were Mormon and we believed this and she would talk to JR about no talking about this in school. Mr Friedman didn't know what to say so he ended the call with Tracy.
WOW!!! I wonder what this is going to spark. Maybe it will be nothing. Maybe we will get a call from the principal asking for a meeting. Who knows.. But I do know this. I will not back down and will not allow for anyone to make mockery or issues about truth the Wineberg Family. They really don't want to mess with me so I hope that they just over look this as an incident and move on. Please feel free to chime in on this. I am still laughing about it as I write this blog.. Well ok time to go eat Frito Pie. MMMHMMMM!!! Peace Out!!!
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I am the patriarch of this family. My reply to this message is a reply out of love for each member of our family and out of love for our Father in Heaven. My desire for this short note is to provide a different way of gaining knowledge and understanding for the things that have already been discussed in this blog.
I mean no offense to anyone. I will love you always because you are my family. (Yes, this is a disclaimer, just in case anyone thinks that I will not love them anymore after I have finished my writing!)
Let me state up front, I am not a member of the church, so all that I write here is of my own belief system. It is not of the church. I do not speak for the church. People in the church are just that. People!
Everyone that has ever been perfected (not a sinner!) is no longer on this earth, so I guess since we are all here on earth we are sinners! Each one of us has something to learn and give!
Learn to love and forgive. Teach the correct principles and doctrines to your children and they will grow up to be pleasing in the eyes of God. Even the parents who teach the correct things will receive blessing from our Heavenly Father.
Scriptures of all religions speak of blackness and darkness as symbolic of evil and that light or brightness is of the good spiritual gifts. No person should ever attempt to judge a person’s skin color as being good or evil. Nor should it ever be said that one color of skin will enjoy the kingdom of heaven and another color will not. Nor should it ever be said that one skin color absolutely causes sin and another skin color absolutely causes righteousness! One makes you a sinner and the other one makes you a righteous person? That is the talk of the devil! He wants you to believe that!
We are all the sons and daughters of our Heavenly Father.
We all have the same ability to live with Him someday, or by forsaking Him and His commandments, live outside of His presence and in “darkness”.
I think the lesson to be taught to all, especially our children, is LOVE. For God so loved the world…The first commandment is to Love Your God with All of your heart….Love your neighbor as you Love yourself.…..Love your mother and father…. etc. The world exists because GOD loved us.
Teach our children to love one another and to over look some of our preconceived notions (that we teach our children with and without words!) about what the person is or is not! Treat others as if they were your brother or sister. Hold hands, tell them that you love them, forgive yourself and others, love yourself and others, look for the positive side of what people do and have tried to accomplish.
After all is said and done, what do we have on the other side?
Want to know what I believe? ……………..LOVE!
Love will be the most important thing that we have that we can take with us. When we learn to love as our Father in Heaven…..(when you do, I think that you will be immediately beside our Father in Heaven because nothing could keep you out of His presence!)
Dad
Very well said Dad. I really think you should expand on the knowledge your giving Jeffrey to include what dad has said.
This is Adam speaking...You have it all wrong. Lamanites were not made to have dark skin because they were sinners...Quite different, in fact there were times when the Lamanites were more righteous than the Nephites (remember Samuel the Lamanite). They were made to have a darker complexion to differentiate between the different beliefs. There are many members of the church that are of African American decent who now have the priesthood, are patrons of the temple, are bishops, stake presidents, and temple presidents. It is important that everyone understands that we all are decendants of Adam and Eve, of Noah, and this is something that should be taken seriously and make sure that all of us including our children are taught properly and aren't brought up with misinformation. I hope that makes sense...I am available for lessons anytime...lol...Anyway...love you all...
Crazy thing is as this has unfolded and yes it has unfolded a tremendous amount...(not from what Jeffrey said but other ways) The unfortunate thing is we all know that there were no black people in South America's where the Book of Mormon took place, however we subconsciously place black people with the Lamanites and that is how their skin was darkened. It stims even further back, lets say...Cain.....
Jeffrey did not even know this little girl was mixed (half black and white, he thought she was just darker than he, which is how he views people. It has prompted alot of people involved to re-evaluate what is really church doctrine and just opinions/views.
Thanks everyone for your input.
I think that the most important thing to be told here is how the church believes. It has nothing to do with the blacks or history of the blacks in the church. I for one am not happy with my bishoprics remarks to my son that sparked this whole thing. I had no idea that my son of all people would go and talk about this at school in a way that would end up in a huge PR issue.
Bishop told me after he has learned what what was said that he felt uncomfortable about what his counselor told Jeffrey. He was there when this all unfolded. I am no coward but who better to ask when this comes up then your own bishop.
Well what is making me mad and I will be speaking with a firm but direct heart tomorrow to his teacher and counselor and principal. The fact that the teacher over stepped Tracy and I and still had Jr talk to the Counselor behind our backs has me in a huge PISS ROAR!!! I mean let the issue die with what Jr said, as it has not sparked complaints from the little girls family, however the teacher taking his own views and the counselor as well to talk to my son with out my authority.. Ok so I am going to raise CAIN tomorrow, no pun attended.
I found out that the counselor told jr that he is not allowed to talk to anyone about religion in school. Also she told him that we all have a little black in us. Well as we are taught to love one another and turn the other cheek. Not when my Parenting skills are stepped on. I will let everyone know how my meeting goes at his school tomorrow. Please pray for me because I am going to need all the prayers because its going to take all the strength I have to keep it professional.
Thanks for your input dad, and Adam. Wow, first timer Adam. Maybe we can talk about religion more often if thats what helps you chime in on blogs!
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